Posted by Susan (220.127.116.11) on July 04, 2000 at 18:29:17:
In Reply to: Re: confirmation of Karma posted by Tal on June 29, 2000 at 02:37:39:
: On a reality level, much suffering that the people in Tibet have / are going through is a result of Chinese oppression, of having athiests occupy one's lands, and meddle in the selection of successors to spritual leadership. Not to mention the outright kidnapping, killing, and imprisonment that goes along with this. On a philosophical and semantic level, one can debate your statement. (I personally belive strongly in the duality of kharma, and try to commit many kind acts, attributing much of any wrong that befalls me to my own lowly behavior.) Hopefully some progress is being made this summer with the Dalai Lama's visit to America, and some better conciliation between Tibet and China may be in the offering.
You mentioned the karma of the Tibetan people, there is a dual issue here but some of it must rest with the Tibetans themselves. His Holiness the 13th saw that the people themselves were or should take a stand in the future but they would not listen to him. They refused to look to the future and take approiate measure to insure their country to come into the future and stood by this until it was too late. Karma between China and Tibetan goes back hundreds of years but it really was due to having the highest and most valuable piece of real estate that exist. When there was perhaps a chance to help them, China was very smart and got all the nations involved in the Korean War while they were able to do their dirty work. We(as nations) saw their ability and we have great fear of them. The sad part that when a great culture is taken over, it never can recover.
The sacrifice of the Tibetan people brought Tibetan Buddhist to the west and perhaps that was part of the karma issue. China wanted that piece of property as they had just recovered from a terrible war and needed the resources that Tibet possess. The bottom line is that the sacrifice of these people has not and will not be in vain.
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