Re: Taking Refuge: Ceremony

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Posted by Sergio ( on August 11, 2000 at 01:38:12:

In Reply to: Re: Taking Refuge: Ceremony posted by Stephen Pema Dorje on August 10, 2000 at 16:11:11:

Thank you stephen, I agree with you. Thank you for your comment. As you said, one can take refuge in the ceremony but if one doesn’t follow the Buddhist Path, then one doesn’t have moral authority.
I used the word “officially” because one can be Buddhist in her/his heart, not necessarily after a ceremony, but the ceremony is something like “official”. Perhaps it is a bad word. One can follow the ceremony alone in front of any image of the Buddha and it is as official as doing it with more people and with a spiritual master. As the Dalai Lama said: “anyone with a good heart is a Buddhist”. I just tried to explain a "taking refuge ceremony", but your comment is very very important.

Thank you!

Best Regards


Dear Sergio,
: I enjoy your info but I must differ on a few points about the Refuge
: Ceremony. I too have gone through the ceremony.
: Personally though, I don't agree with the idea of becoming
: a buddhist "officially". This means that someone (master, etc.) gives you
: the title of "Buddhist", even though the Buddha said the dharma
: is within us already. This sounds like connecting with God only
: through a priest in the Christian sense. I believe that
: if a person believes in the Buddha's teaching, is compassionate, ethical,
: loving and also tries not to do harm, they are a
: Buddhist. The refuge ceremony is a nice tradition,
: but to me, it doesn't make you a buddhist. A person can take refuge,
: but not practice the buddhist path. The Buddha taught about the need not
: to be attached to the Dharma either. Through all this, I guess what
: I am saying is, a person is "Buddhist" through
: their heart, not through someone else. This is my understanding and
: I hope it is not taken as a negative response.
: Peace to you Sergio and all...

: Stephen Pema Dorje

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