Re: Core of Truth?


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Posted by SkySitter (128.29.4.2) on September 16, 2000 at 04:40:55:

In Reply to: Re: Core of Truth? posted by Michael Pollard on September 15, 2000 at 12:35:01:

: I cannot really say I've found infomation on lying specifically... but have read a sutra or two about similare things. One sutra on right speach, I'll give the URL in a moment, spoke of how to judge what you spoke of... but in it the Buddha didn't say anything a benificial lie. I'm not sure what this lack of an answer means... perhaps he disaproved... or maybe it depended on the circumstance. Here is the Sutra's URL: www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/majjhima/mn58.html. I hope that helps... sorry for lack of a definitive answer; if it helps, I'd lie to protect life... any other lie may have questionable motives (!MY OPINION!). A reason lieing is frowned upon is illustrated in this sutra: www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/khuddaka/itivuttaka/iti1.html#25 It's basicly says that a person that lies is likely to do many other things to. Make of it what you will.

Well said. One more Sutta to add Suta Sutta:
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/canon/anguttara/an4-183.html

"When, for one who speaks of what has been seen, unskillful mental qualities increase and skillful mental qualities decrease, then that sort of thing
should not be spoken about."

Here is my view of Buddha's teaching on this.
Buddha does not say: here is the rule. If your break it, you go to hell.
Buddha teaches that intentional action produces significant consequences.
If the action produces bad (unskilful) results, don't do it.
If one does not know the results of an action, learn that first.
If one knows that one did something wrong, stop doing it.
If one doesn't know if a prior action is right or wrong, try to learn it.
There is no god to please, no super rules to follow. Just try one's best.

(This is a Mahayana view. In many cases, killing is even allowed within Mahayana tradition.
It is the greed, hatret, anger, ignorance that is bad. Action without those can be OK.)



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