Re: mantras for real?

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Posted by Mister Hebat ( on October 21, 2000 at 16:45:26:

In Reply to: Re: mantras for real? posted by curtis on October 21, 2000 at 08:09:59:

Dear Friends,

I study Theravada, Mahayana, and Tantric Buddhism.
The mean of secret is not like the term that we used daily.
"Secret" means that person who want to learn this teaching, must have fulfilled certain conditions. and then the teacher will give him initation.
The person must first study the both teachings of Theravada and Mahayana Buddhism, which in Tibetan Buddhist be composed in one book called LamRim.
The person must first attain Boddhicitta.
Because it is dangerous without Boddhicitta, like the story of a lama who still lack of Boddhiscitta but have learnt Highest Yoga Tantra of VajraBhairava.

The Lord Shakyamuni Buddha first don't teach Mahayana and Tantra but teach Theravada with the following reason (according to my opinion):
If He teach Mahayana and Tantra first, His disciples will be lazy and don't want to cultivate themselves. The Dharma will decline only as a MumbooJumboo teaching.
So first as foundation the Lord teach Theravada, and then Mahayana and Tantra.
Theravada, Mahayana, and Tantra are the jewels of Buddhism. without one of them Buddhist Teaching will be incomplete.
All traditions are same precious and respectfull!!
I hope this can help, please forgive me if I make mistakes.

Mister Hebat
: Hi Michael:

: thanks for the reply, you mentioned the Tibetans consider mantra to the 'secret teachings" from The Buddha, how could that be? Skaymuni (sorry for spelling) buddha said that he has hide none of his teachings from anyone before he passed away, he said there are no secret doctrines whatsoever WYSIWYG. Or are you refering to different buddhas besides him? like Amitabha or some other bodhisattvas?

: cutis

: : Hi, I wasn't going to post since I haven't a really good understanding of mantras. But what It seems to me is, the mantra is to stimulate different cakras (mispelt, but means energy points or such). To recite OM AHH HUM, some of the root sylables of mantras, is to acces the cakra above and between the eyes, in the throat, and in the heart, repectivly. I don't know enough about tantra to give a good explaination, but the mantra isn't like a magic phrase to make you better, it releases energy which helps you to gain awareness and renew the spirit... helping you clense the bad karma. This is what I understand... and I truly hope someone will give a really good explaination. As for the Buddha's view, I don't know, but the Tantra is big in Tibetan Buddhism and is said to be the Buddha's secret techings. I'm willing to buy that. I know that I don't use Mantras to much, but when I recite them things tend to become vibrant, light hearted and I am more aware of my surrondings... I don't know what that means.
: : But I assume it's a good thing. Anyway, hopefully all this is correct and of help. Anybody else have something to say? Metta.

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